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> Энивей, это не так сильно имеет значение для этого конкретного случая
Угу. Это скорее людям, которые считали что это Эйнштейн сказал - комикс же последнего даже не упоминает, так что с переводом всё нормально :)
> Большинство источников считает, что Эйнштейн-таки
Кто-то на вики возмущался, что бедняжке приписывают все цитаты кроме как из первой книги Ветхого Завета, да и оттуда тоже могут)
Угу. Это скорее людям, которые считали что это Эйнштейн сказал - комикс же последнего даже не упоминает, так что с переводом всё нормально :)
> Большинство источников считает, что Эйнштейн-таки
Кто-то на вики возмущался, что бедняжке приписывают все цитаты кроме как из первой книги Ветхого Завета, да и оттуда тоже могут)
В комментариях оригинала негодуют информацией о заражении паразитами: (примерный перевод комментария, суммирующего возражения) "...84% на какой-то ступени жизни были заражены паразитом и выработали антитела, так что они не заражены им более".
Как там на самом деле - я не смог найти.
EDIT: цифру перепутал
Как там на самом деле - я не смог найти.
EDIT: цифру перепутал
Отредактировано «Nevermore» 25.06.2016 16:57:18
Цитата про безумие была приписана многим людям - Эйнштейну, Бенджамину Франклину и Марку Твену[1]. Есть и другие[2][3][4] ([4] без подтвержения источника, [5] ссылается на тот же источник но уточняет, что не они не смогли найти оригинал 1980 года - только версию 1992), так же говорят про "старую китайскую пословицу", группы 12 шагов[3], комика Jackie "Moms" Mabley (вариация, без упоминания безумия)[3]. В "Narcotics Anonymous Basic Text" (1981) есть эта цитата в несколько другом виде: "безумие - это повторение тех же ошибок и ожидание иного результата"[2][5]. Ссылка[1] говорит про речь Ошо в 1975 году, которая использует подобные заявления ("mad", "madness" вместо "insanity"). Оригинальный автор цитаты не установлен[3]. Билл Клинтон в президентской кампании 1992 года ссылается на неназванную книгу, которую ему дала жена, автор которой дал/дала такое определение безумию[6].
[1] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
> ...An early occurrence was used as a teaching reference at University of California, Irvine in social science lectures in the later 1960s. Also found in a 1981 text from Narcotics Anonymous.
Замечание: для "teaching reference" не указан источник.
> An earlier version from 1975, spoken during a public talk by Osho:
> "The mind is always asking you to do something over again, something you have already done so many times before. And every time you see that by doing it nothing is achieved. What else can madness be?"
> And later in the same talk:
> "To be mad is to keep repeating something that has already been seen as useless, as worthless".
[2] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rita_Mae_Brown
> Brown did include this quote in her book Sudden Death (Bantam Books, New York, 1983), p. 68, but it appears she was just paraphrasing a quote that had already been written elsewhere. The earliest known appearance of a similar quote is the "approval version" of the Narcotics Anonymous "Basic Text" released in November 1981, which included the quote "Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results."
[3] https://books.google.ru/books?id=d6JZryGvfxYC&pg=PA98&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
> ...; it has also been called a "Chinese proverb".
> Twelve-step groups have long warned about doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result, without giving any specific source for their warning.
...
> Comedienne Jackie "Moms" Mabley (1897-1975) was famous for a variation on this theme attributed to her: "If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got".
...
> Verdict: Originator yet to be determined.
[4] http://throwgrammarfromthetrain.blogspot.ru/2010/10/definition-of-insanity.html
> I also found a 1980 pamphlet from the Hazelden Foundation, "Step Two: The Promise of Hope," which quotes the same aphorism, so perhaps it got its start in the literature of addiction and recovery.
> And of course there may not be an original author; probably these three sources picked up a formulation that had been percolating in the spoken language, possibly in less eloquent variations, just as it was settling into the pithy form we now consider good enough for Einstein.
[5] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Narcotics_Anonymous
> It might have originated in some other part of the addiction recovery community, since it seems to have been in oral use prior to 1981, being cited in a 1980 text from Alcoholics Anonymous (though the link on google books is to a 1992 revised edition, so confirmation is needed that it appeared in the original 1980 version):
“When I came into the program, I heard that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results,”
[6] http://millercenter.org/president/bush/speeches/speech-5532
> We have to change in this country. You know, my wife, Hillary, gave me a book about a year ago in which the author defined insanity as just doing the same old thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
[1] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin
> ...An early occurrence was used as a teaching reference at University of California, Irvine in social science lectures in the later 1960s. Also found in a 1981 text from Narcotics Anonymous.
Замечание: для "teaching reference" не указан источник.
> An earlier version from 1975, spoken during a public talk by Osho:
> "The mind is always asking you to do something over again, something you have already done so many times before. And every time you see that by doing it nothing is achieved. What else can madness be?"
> And later in the same talk:
> "To be mad is to keep repeating something that has already been seen as useless, as worthless".
[2] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rita_Mae_Brown
> Brown did include this quote in her book Sudden Death (Bantam Books, New York, 1983), p. 68, but it appears she was just paraphrasing a quote that had already been written elsewhere. The earliest known appearance of a similar quote is the "approval version" of the Narcotics Anonymous "Basic Text" released in November 1981, which included the quote "Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results."
[3] https://books.google.ru/books?id=d6JZryGvfxYC&pg=PA98&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
> ...; it has also been called a "Chinese proverb".
> Twelve-step groups have long warned about doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result, without giving any specific source for their warning.
...
> Comedienne Jackie "Moms" Mabley (1897-1975) was famous for a variation on this theme attributed to her: "If you always do what you always did, you will always get what you always got".
...
> Verdict: Originator yet to be determined.
[4] http://throwgrammarfromthetrain.blogspot.ru/2010/10/definition-of-insanity.html
> I also found a 1980 pamphlet from the Hazelden Foundation, "Step Two: The Promise of Hope," which quotes the same aphorism, so perhaps it got its start in the literature of addiction and recovery.
> And of course there may not be an original author; probably these three sources picked up a formulation that had been percolating in the spoken language, possibly in less eloquent variations, just as it was settling into the pithy form we now consider good enough for Einstein.
[5] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Narcotics_Anonymous
> It might have originated in some other part of the addiction recovery community, since it seems to have been in oral use prior to 1981, being cited in a 1980 text from Alcoholics Anonymous (though the link on google books is to a 1992 revised edition, so confirmation is needed that it appeared in the original 1980 version):
“When I came into the program, I heard that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results,”
[6] http://millercenter.org/president/bush/speeches/speech-5532
> We have to change in this country. You know, my wife, Hillary, gave me a book about a year ago in which the author defined insanity as just doing the same old thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
Гугл подсказывает что кролики могут есть мясо, но последствия могут быть летальными[1] и не говорит что это нормально. Коровы - есть птенцов[3], у козлов вроде как репутация всеядных[4]. И те, и другие и третьи - травоядные[2][3][4].
EDIT: Так же известно мамы-крольчихи могут съесть своё потомство[5]
EDIT2: Есть информация по отдельным видам зайцев которые могут есть мясо. Арктический беляк (Arctic hare)[6] и Американский беляк (Snowshoe hare)[7]. Про другие виды зайцев, которые бы ели мясо, я не нашёл.
[1] http://www.petrabbitworld.com/interesting_info.html
> I've also heard of bunnies eating dog or cat food but wouldn't recommend regularly providing or allowing them to eat any kind of meat as part of their diet. This is simply because they are herbivores (vegetarians) and who's to know what the consequences are of them eating 'foreign' food or if it is detrimental to their digestive system.
...
> In the morning, she was dead. I later asked the vet about it and he said that bunny’s tummy acid is unable to digest any sort of meat, even kibbles.
...
> Also from a comment earlier, rabbits can digest protein in the form of meat but a low fibre, higher fat diet will kill a rabbit pretty quickly.
[2] http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/is-a-rabbit-a-rodent
> What’s the difference between lagomorphs and rodents? Rabbits, hares, and pikas are distinct from rodents in various respects, for example they have four incisor teeth (rather than two) and they are almost completely herbivorous (whereas many rodents also eat meat).
[3] http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/when-herbivores-arent-poor-chicken-got-eaten-cow-180951115/?no-ist
[4] http://nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/omnivore/
> Goats are herbivores that are curious about unique odors or new foods.
EDIT: [5] http://www.debmark.com/rabbits/faq/eatyoung.htm
EDIT2: [6] http://www.aitc.sk.ca/saskschools/arctic/Ahare.html
> It will eat mosses, lichens, buds, berries, leaves, seaweed, bark, willow twigs and roots, and even the meat from hunters' traps .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_hare
> The Arctic hare is a herbivore, and specifically a folivore.
> Arctic hare have been reported to occasionally eat meat, including fish and the stomach contents of eviscerated caribou.
[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowshoe_hare
> In summer, it feeds on plants such as, grass, ferns and leaves; in winter, it eats twigs, the bark from trees, and buds from flowers and plants and, similar to the Arctic hare, has been known to steal meat from baited traps. Hares are carnivorous under the availability of dead animals, and have been known to eat dead rodents such as mice due to low availability of protein in a herbivorous diet.
https://nature.ca/ukaliq/021des/050_fwb01_e.cfm
EDIT: Так же известно мамы-крольчихи могут съесть своё потомство[5]
EDIT2: Есть информация по отдельным видам зайцев которые могут есть мясо. Арктический беляк (Arctic hare)[6] и Американский беляк (Snowshoe hare)[7]. Про другие виды зайцев, которые бы ели мясо, я не нашёл.
[1] http://www.petrabbitworld.com/interesting_info.html
> I've also heard of bunnies eating dog or cat food but wouldn't recommend regularly providing or allowing them to eat any kind of meat as part of their diet. This is simply because they are herbivores (vegetarians) and who's to know what the consequences are of them eating 'foreign' food or if it is detrimental to their digestive system.
...
> In the morning, she was dead. I later asked the vet about it and he said that bunny’s tummy acid is unable to digest any sort of meat, even kibbles.
...
> Also from a comment earlier, rabbits can digest protein in the form of meat but a low fibre, higher fat diet will kill a rabbit pretty quickly.
[2] http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/is-a-rabbit-a-rodent
> What’s the difference between lagomorphs and rodents? Rabbits, hares, and pikas are distinct from rodents in various respects, for example they have four incisor teeth (rather than two) and they are almost completely herbivorous (whereas many rodents also eat meat).
[3] http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/when-herbivores-arent-poor-chicken-got-eaten-cow-180951115/?no-ist
[4] http://nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/omnivore/
> Goats are herbivores that are curious about unique odors or new foods.
EDIT: [5] http://www.debmark.com/rabbits/faq/eatyoung.htm
EDIT2: [6] http://www.aitc.sk.ca/saskschools/arctic/Ahare.html
> It will eat mosses, lichens, buds, berries, leaves, seaweed, bark, willow twigs and roots, and even the meat from hunters' traps .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_hare
> The Arctic hare is a herbivore, and specifically a folivore.
> Arctic hare have been reported to occasionally eat meat, including fish and the stomach contents of eviscerated caribou.
[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowshoe_hare
> In summer, it feeds on plants such as, grass, ferns and leaves; in winter, it eats twigs, the bark from trees, and buds from flowers and plants and, similar to the Arctic hare, has been known to steal meat from baited traps. Hares are carnivorous under the availability of dead animals, and have been known to eat dead rodents such as mice due to low availability of protein in a herbivorous diet.
https://nature.ca/ukaliq/021des/050_fwb01_e.cfm
Отредактировано «Nevermore» 21.06.2016 16:28:09
#455089, может. Это как репортажи где "стрелок играл во множество жестоких игр", а потом выясняется, что той, с которой он чуть ли буквально не сходил:
> He went most every Friday through Sunday and played the game _for four to ten hours_.
, было на самом деле "Dance Dance Revolution".
Между "средневековая фэнтези с магией" и "любые другие проблемы с головой или окружением" некоторые (включая СМИ) почему-то склонны винить первое.
> He went most every Friday through Sunday and played the game _for four to ten hours_.
, было на самом деле "Dance Dance Revolution".
Между "средневековая фэнтези с магией" и "любые другие проблемы с головой или окружением" некоторые (включая СМИ) почему-то склонны винить первое.
↓ Беготня – Выпуск №48
> Вспомнилась статья как один такой ребенок, наигравшись, поддался фантазии и фрагнул своего батю молотком. А потом сел играть дальше.
Видимо, психопаты и на голову шизанутые тоже играют в игры.
Но попытаются ли котята завалить босса-скелета (кота в таком виде, в каком он представлен в прошлом стрипе)?
Видимо, психопаты и на голову шизанутые тоже играют в игры.
Но попытаются ли котята завалить босса-скелета (кота в таком виде, в каком он представлен в прошлом стрипе)?